Author Topic: Dyson on Steam (Read 51010 times)

cem · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 01:30:48 AM »

The folks at steam know a lot about this game:

Dyson will be available through Steam. To be precise on the 31st of July 2009. The screenshots are also pretty neat.

I noticed some things that I didn't see in the game (here be the speculation part):

- The colors look stronger and easier to differentiate
- The roots look a lot smoother and rounder .. and on one pic mockingly long
- The core of the planet shines
- Planets are now also inhabited by bunnies who might eventually gnaw off your roots

Supported OS will be XP, Vista and Linux, but I'm hoping the Mac Version is indeed still in the plan. And I hope there will still be a free component.

I'm not too familiar with Steam, but I guess it is pretty amazing for the devs, seeing how Darwinia, Audiosurf and World of Goo became known to and bought by a wide audience of gamers.

Cpt. Charisma · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2009, 05:09:33 AM »

Please, please, please don't use Steam. If you haven't signed anything, back out now. Steam is buggy, bloated and annoying. The customer service/support is non existent, and there is no Linux version. I refuse to use Steam for anything ever again. I would love to support Dyson, but I will not support Valve.

CdeathJD · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:25:17 PM »

I am only posting as a reaction to the poster above me really, but personally speaking, i have never had any problems with steam, and have been using it since Half Life 2 came out (which required it). Customer service does take some time, so the first port of call is always the steam forums for me. If the game is popular enough the user forums will be a buzz of activity. Whilst my list of "big" games, like Doom 3, Left 4 Dead etc, that take up GBs of space are very few, the smaller "indie" games usually stay on my hard disk drive for good when downloaded. I would be very happy if a steam purchase option was available!

Also: When you play a game on steam, your steam freinds also see that you are playing the game. What better marketing ploy than to know you have freinds playing a game you've not heard of!

Jamis · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:15:41 PM »

I approve of trying to get the game out to a larger audience.

Going with Steam seems like a pretty good idea to me.

I hope it works out well guys.

wogan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:24:52 AM »

Steam's a great game distribution mechanism, if you're happy with locking your games to an online service you have very little control over. Personally, I'm not - I prefer either seperate downloads or physical discs. Call me old-fashioned. I would purchase a copy of Dyson through Steam, though, were I able to. But I'm not: their payment options and my payment abilities aren't aligned.

I guess we'll see, come July.

Rudolf · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2009, 04:42:29 PM »

Hey guys, Dyson will also be available through our own website and through direct2drive. We are very happy with the steam and d2d deals but are also very keen on making sure people can get it directly from us. So there will be a choice in the matter that should suit all of you :-)

totally · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:08:46 PM »

Thought that I could suggest a price for a final product if I may.

Less than 8,95 USD is too low, more than 25 is too high (in my opinion)
Realistic price will be between 10,95--19,95 USD

It all depends on how much goodies will be in a final version of the game (like scenario editor, revised AI !emphasis; upgraded eyecandy, new gameplay features, strategies and tactics and so on) If you manage to get all kind of good stuff, then 20+ USD is realistic.

That of course if you choose to go with the one time payment options.

(And If a shop accepts Paypal, then it is fine by me.)

AriesT · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:32:05 PM »

Most independent games are 10$ or 15$ on Steam. I guess this is a good price for a game like Dyson.

totally · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:40:49 PM »

Quote from: AriesT on March 30, 2009, 11:32:05 PM

Most independent games are 10$ or 15$ on Steam. I guess this is a good price for a game like Dyson.

No, no! 9,95$ or 14,95$

AriesT · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:16:05 AM »

Whatever.

totally · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:24:56 AM »

Eh, dude, that was a joke.

ryandaniels · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:55:15 AM »

I am very much glad you will be selling dyson on steam. I've never had large problem with my games that was steam related, and I even re-bought bioshock when they had it on sale for 5 bucks, because the best part of steam is the security and ease of being able to install your games on any computer with an internet connection. In fact, I love steam so much, my account is worth 519.68 at this point! (well, that's not adjusted for all the sales/packages I bought games during/in)

Alex · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2009, 06:59:05 PM »

Thanks for the support guys

Quote from: Cpt. Charisma on March 25, 2009, 05:09:33 AM

Please, please, please don't use Steam. If you haven't signed anything, back out now. Steam is buggy, bloated and annoying. The customer service/support is non existent, and there is no Linux version. I refuse to use Steam for anything ever again. I would love to support Dyson, but I will not support Valve.

We will also be offering the game through our own site and through Direct2Drive, and anyone else we can get our sweaty palms on. So you won't have to submit to buying through a channel you detest to get the game

wogan · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:45:44 PM »

@Alex What about direct sales? I know that a distribution partner == more sales, but would that prevent you from selling the game at the same price, directly from dyson-game.com?

Alex · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2009, 11:42:30 PM »

Not as far as I know.

glubbar · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2009, 06:51:29 AM »

I have nothing against Steam and all (excepted their latest policy regarding US$ EUR€ conversion which is a shame).
Plus if tis can boost sales for independent games, I'm all for it.

However I'd rather buy directly from dyson-game (paypal?) so that I'm sure all the money goes to the authors.

Rudolf · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:42:30 AM »

We will also sell the game from here, although I have yet to investigate how to set that up. We will probably try to mimic what the 2dboy boys have done with their paypal setup :-) Althoughh I have no idea yet as to how they have set it up.

wogan · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2009, 08:28:55 AM »

@rudolf http://storefront.paypallabs.com/authenticate/review

All you need apart from that is a merchant account at Paypal (connected to a mastercard). Voila.

Rudolf · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2009, 02:57:35 AM »

Awesome, I am looking into this stuff right now but so far only looked at Paypal's Instant Payment Notification stuff.
They seem to really have improved over the last year or so!!

Imaword · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2009, 12:05:22 PM »

hey. im not a bit fan of steam my self. but i know another cool digital distribution program, that is not like steam, and has a fan base that would like this more.

check it out..

http://www.impulsedriven.com/developers.aspx

Dnst · « **Reply #20 on:** April 25, 2009, 05:19:33 AM »

The lower the price, the more players will buy it. 9.99 is the maximum I would pay for it, 4.99 would be an unusual low price and the people could think this game is junk. Sad but true.

megagoten · « **Reply #21 on:** May 05, 2009, 09:35:41 AM »

I'm not even sure if they would even put a price. Maybe there would be an "Finished'' version of Dyson. Then you could buy patches for 3.95$.

Or they would release the game for free in steam. (Like Portal's demo). I don't know. It's up to you guys.

Rudolf · « **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2009, 12:46:42 AM »

Just to be clear, we are going to sell a commercial version of Dyson for a set price. We haven't finalised the prize yet as we still working on content tot go into the final game. The commercial version will be much expanded, both in content and in features, compared to the current free version.

We are doing our best to create a high quality game that people are happy to pay for! :-D

megagoten · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:13:16 AM »

So when you are going to release the game, it's going to be finish? No more patches or anything?

Rudolf · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:36:22 PM »

We are going to release the commercial version of the game on july 31st, and it is extremely likely that we will do a number of extra releases as well. :-D

megagoten · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:08:07 AM »

That's a good thing. How about a Dyson 2?

Rudolf · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:40:50 AM »

IF we release Dyson 2 I am tempted to call it "Dyson 2: THE DYSONING"
;-)

Alex · « **Reply #27 on:** May 07, 2009, 06:39:03 PM »

Dyson 2: Dyson Nebula Forever

AriesT · « **Reply #28 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:34:34 PM »

What about Dyson 2: Vacuum Clean Space ?

Or Dysoning Mama: My Space Garden - only for Wii of course.

megagoten · « **Reply #29 on:** May 08, 2009, 12:09:49 AM »

Dyson 2: The beginning

Now this will be awesome xD

killybilly · « **Reply #30 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:38:12 AM »

Quote from: megagoten on May 08, 2009, 12:09:49 AM

Dyson 2: The beginning

Now this will be awesome xD

dyson 2 :the begining?kinda reminds me of an old game called populous 3:the beginning

how about dyson 2: the world tree(like supports a campaign in which at last level you fight a collosal dyson tree that spawn ultimate seedlings that are 10 times bigger than your seeds. now that would be a kickass)

megagoten · « **Reply #31 on:** May 15, 2009, 05:32:49 AM »

Well, we are kind of wasting our time. Because i highly doubt they will release a Dyson 2. Only if they start making one, I shall post a topic about a name suggestion.

whitebear · « **Reply #32 on:** May 20, 2009, 01:51:09 PM »

Will the steam version have multiplay? I'd assume it would be great opportunity to plan that considering steam is able to back it up with a master server.

megagoten · « **Reply #33 on:** May 22, 2009, 10:45:08 AM »

Please use the Search function next time.

Quote from: megagoten on May 11, 2009, 09:07:54 AM

Quote from: Rollins B. on August 01, 2008, 12:55:57 AM
Quote from: Kaze
Multiplayer! Yes! This would be amazing!
Higher contrast between race colors; I've found myself playing against the same colour (Or similar colour) a few times.
A larger world! Perhaps you could include more asteroid belts? Or maybe an infinite sized game world? <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />
Saving/loading

Multiplayer? That ... would be ... AMAZING! The only problem would be setting up a server to run the games. I don't know if you guys have any spare servers sitting around, but what could work is PC Based servers. Soldat comes packaged with a program that runs a game server on your PC while you play. The only problem is the guy that designed the game is Polish, so you might not be able to get much help from him. Of course, I'm sure you'd be able to figure it out on your own.

The infinite sized game world would be something awesome to implement too. Maybe it could scale up from Asteriod Belt>Solar System>Galaxy. Ever stage has to be accomplished from the ground up. It would afford hours upon hours of game play.

I agree. Multiplayer will be awesome but I would consider reading the quote above.

im in ur closet · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2009, 11:43:59 AM »

Valve would probably make dyson cost and then put the price up a bit. Thats what happened to Gary's Mod. G-mod.

megagoten · « **Reply #35 on:** June 04, 2009, 08:49:29 AM »

Gary's mod?

ambientmf · « **Reply #36 on:** July 04, 2009, 05:45:00 AM »

As others have said, I've personally never had any trouble with Steam.
I would definitely purchase Dyson on Steam, so that I can reinstall it whenever I format my computer (which is becoming frequent, jumping between OS's).

ryandaniels · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2009, 04:38:29 AM »

I see on the steam page dyson's release has been pushed back to august

alastair_jack · « **Reply #38 on:** July 17, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »

seems like its been pushed back to october

Alex · « **Reply #39 on:** July 17, 2009, 10:35:55 PM »

Hey guys, we have just posted a new blog post about the release date - short story is we have no chance of getting it out in July and will need another couple of months.

topmo3 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 18, 2009, 05:41:09 PM »

Quote

we decided to integrate Lua script

Alex, will be AI scriptable?
Exists AI in Dyson 1.20 very dumb (imho). Are moders will have ability to change AI behaviour or to create new AI tactics with Lua? (i am not voting or request, just interest

)

or current AI is just temporary version, and in future it will be improved?

Grnd · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:18:28 AM »

Question: should Dyson be on steam?

My Asnwer: yes.

Though steam dose have it's moments, they are shadowed over by the accomplishments that I see it use. It is a game database where you purchase a game once and never have to worry about re purchasing it again, Just check your games list and there it is. there is only one other thing that i have seen to this but that program adds all sorts of crap to the files and makes them five times larger than the game itself (if you're wondering what the other thing is it is called Stardock). The shop browser makes it easy to quickly catogorize and search their entire list for your favorite games. And as many a video/review I have viewed/read says that it is the fastest growing online community plus they might add in Steam Achevs too!

in short, keep it on steam...please....

EDIT: Stardock also makes games more expnsive than when you find them on steam.

Alex · « **Reply #42 on:** August 07, 2009, 09:07:05 PM »

Quote from: topmo3 on July 18, 2009, 05:41:09 PM

Quote
we decided to integrate Lua script
Alex, will be AI scriptable?
Exists AI in Dyson 1.20 very dumb (imho). Are moders will have ability to change AI behaviour or to create new AI tactics with Lua? (i am not voting or request, just interest )

or current AI is just temporary version, and in future it will be improved?

The extent to which you will be able to control the AI is not fixed yet, but you should at least be able to make some scripted levels using Lua. Programming the AI entirely in Lua is an option, and would open the whole enemy AI up to modification. I'm not sure I have time for that though - we'll see.

typo001 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:21:10 PM »

Well I found this game off steam, and i love it. Cant wait for the release

There are probally a bunch of people that will find the game on steam also

Kapyrna · « **Reply #44 on:** August 23, 2009, 01:07:49 AM »

I didn't see whether this will be available for preorder or simply purchase at release date. Any word on that from the 'Marketing Department'?

TorchFire · « **Reply #45 on:** August 31, 2009, 06:23:56 PM »

The summary for Dyson on Steam's site says, "The player is pitched again several teams..." This should be pitched against or pitted against, no?

typo001 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 28, 2009, 02:00:40 PM »

I found no need to make a new thread (but if my question is not answered here, i will make a new thread)

You can preorder, but when will this be avalable for steam? Also the verson on steam will be the same they have currently (i only say this because it still shows the old pictures)?

Rudolf · « **Reply #47 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:26:49 PM »

It will be available on steam fairly soon if nothing goes worong. :-)

And all versions available will be the same, i.e. the full enchilada with all the improvements, new features, tons of levels, scripting support, etc. :-)

gio9sig551 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 05, 2009, 11:48:49 PM »

there will be a preorder on steam too or the game will be available on steam on the release date at full price?

Rudolf · « **Reply #49 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:44:12 AM »

There should be a pre-order as well, but this needs to be confirmed.
Nothing official yet, so keep an eye out please :-)

gio9sig551 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 07, 2009, 02:10:32 AM »

I can't wait for it!!!

Vanger · « **Reply #51 on:** October 07, 2009, 03:30:07 AM »

You're right.

It totally rocks.

TorchFire · « **Reply #52 on:** October 14, 2009, 07:02:15 PM »

Eufloria is now available on Steam for pre-order at a discount.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/41219/

Bender411 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 22, 2009, 04:45:00 AM »

Hey guys! If you distribute game on steam, you have access to steamworks, right? May be you use some features of that? Like achievements?

Author Topic: Dyson on Steam (Read 51010 times)

cem

Cpt. Charisma

CdeathJD

wogan

totally

totally

totally

ryandaniels

wogan

wogan

Imaword

Dnst

megagoten

megagoten

megagoten

megagoten

megagoten

whitebear

megagoten

im in ur closet

megagoten

ambientmf

ryandaniels

alastair_jack

Grnd

typo001

Kapyrna

typo001

Bender411